the latest in hawaii where secular group octobered to event poor people in after from can a. the reason the hawaii citizens for the separation of church and state objected the event involved the new hope church which handled ticket sales for a concert. joining us now from new york culture warriors. >> janine is there a growing anti-christian bias in america? >> i'm catholic, bill, i have to tell you if i didn't answer that responsibly and say yes i wouldn't be telling you what's going on in our country. we have this nativity scenes and can a there has been this try to reduce the number of religiously identified displays, then what we are seeing now is more and more of these things being suppressed by the courts who are now saying if there is an identification of religion in any way, then that is unconstitutional and it is a violation of the first amendment. but the interesting thing about this is that the first amendment has the establishment clause and it says that there is no way that you can interrupt the establishment of a religion or prohibited free exercise of religion.